Amazing how this is such a public thing, and yet the sheeple will continue thinking we are a nation of laws and ethics. This could have been a chapter somewhere in the middle of AS...
The clintons are evil people and should be deported at a minimum for what they did. Allowing Hillary to be elected is a travesty which should be fought. That means voting for Trump this time. At least HE wont do the cronyism that Hillary has already proven is her business model.
How can we actually want someone as crooked as Hillary as president. We had to threaten to impeach Nixon to get him out, and he only lied and covered up- didnt actually DO any breaking and entering.
Hillary set up the clinton foundation and speaking fee system to benefit her and sell government access to the donors. Not to mention that she was sloppy with her email server designed to hide what she was doing plus her lackadaisical attitude toward benghazi security. God knows what she would do as president, and how she would cover it up
Not to mention hammering blackberries and destroying 11 laptop computers. We have a blatant, obvious, criminal, paying for cover-ups and everyone knows it, yet they all turn a blind eye to it. Dems find nothing suspicious in that. It is so stunningly illegal that the possibility - even the probability that she might become President completely blows my mind. I'm going to wrap my head in duct tape to keep it from exploding.
I say that her supporters are equally crooked and evil- just wanting goodies that they "think" she will get for them. Once the election is over, she will wave goodbye for 4 years and do nothing except to the REALLY big donors who will get millions of OUR money. That seems to be the way it works
Oh, she will do things. But, you won't like any of them. We'll have a Supreme Court full of Ginsbergs. Expanded Obamacare. Higher taxes spent on evaporating projects. I can't go on. Dozens more.
Uh, yep, that is Politico Americana today. The herd just grazes for three years and then spends one getting entertained by the drama of the race, then goes back to grazing, never knowing what is really going on, and wondering why it is all going to sh#t.
This still goes back to my "Shadow Government" theory. It seems all this crap is a cover for the real string pullers to continue to pull. Remember the "Star Chamber" anyone?
Intimidation works, especially when you care about your friends and family. This Clinton Clan has a lot of corrupt connections. They are a force to be reckoned with. If the people continue to allow them to operate it's going to continue to get worse, not better. Personally, I think this country is doomed to lose it's morals and freedoms. Our children have been brainwashed and taught to ignore history and ignore what's actually happening in todays world. All most are interested in is movie stars and professional sports figures.
If Hillary wins, I will just ignore her as president, and hope the country can survive her term. In the meantime, I will go into survival mode including getting out of the US dollar, ceasing business activities, cutting personal expenses just as far as I can, downsizing housing. Why feed the monster with tax money?
Oh no, I regulalry write off 25K a year as we have a farm to raise horses, and do try to sell them, but the surge in diesel costs in the last 8 years or so killed the horse market, so we "always" end up negative. So, you start a business, with everyintent of making money, and you just don't quite make it all, and lose some, and there you are. Essentially what Trump did. There are 300 thousand loopholes, definitions, and rules, many conflict with each other, just like any government program. I got audited a few years ago for stock trades I did not document correctly (along with 50% of the people I work with) and had to redo 3 years of stuff, and actually got money back by doing it the way the "government" required. OK by me.
The morals were lost long ago; losing our freedom takes longer but occurring incrementally millimeter by millimeter every day. Correction: Morality was not lost, it has never been fully discovered.
Of course it was no accident, but the power-play aspect was a whole new angle for me. Makes me loathe the Clintons even more - if that were at all possible.
vote for Trump, or Hillary is going to increase their power even more. Her contributors have already "paid", now she would have to "play" at OUR expense.
Either I read too much detective fiction, (amazing what you can get from a novel) or the "sheeple" not enough. "There are no coincidences." That was my opinion from the first.
Hey, there is a little more dribbling out, evidently from a book. While I am not a fan of book "news" the fact Clinton cash had a lot of data that the guy backed up with third party data, appears to at least make it a legiotimate accusatory platform.
I like this bit: "[Obama] and Bill Clinton are blood feud guys. They really dislike each other and his feeling was if the Clintons got in the White House, the Obamas would be marginalized," said Klein, adding that Obama changed course when he realized he was "stuck with" Clinton as the nominee against Donald Trump.
Stuck withe it, just like we are. How do you like that Barack baby? Wait till the beast doesn't invite you over anymore...
Loretta L could have turned it around by just not meeting with Bill Clinton. Tossing him off the plane if he boarded by himself, and publicly announcing what was done.
BUT, she is a political hack who just wants her job at our expense. She should be fired at this point for this attitude, as she will be as Trump becomes president.
She had her marching orders from the Obamanation, and the Dumbocrap elite. Now, to be fair, remember, this could have been a Republicrat president doing the same thing with his AG, it is not isolated to one party, which is the real problem we have. Massive corruption across all boundaries...
yeah, we had Bush claiming "weapons of mass destruction" existed in Iraq. Amazing that not one was found. I say there is NO way a president could just not have known. It was a LIE, period, for a purpose.
And there is a lot to support it, and the idea he was after something. What was so important that we had to endure a 10 year period of war, then drop the whole thing like a hot potato when it wasn't there? I can't buy it was just "nation building" or even "anti-Russia". Too much for too little.
Until we - you & I, decide to take the actions required to stop the corruption - the in our faces corruption, it will simply get worse. There are deliberate, non violent options available, we just need to be willing. We had an opportunity in 2009 and let it slip away. It`s on us.
I see no other option - and I`m not happy about it. As we have seen with Obama, congress is the problem, they must be compelled to do as the law requires.
In defence, I do remember it was Felony Pelosi who told them they would stay there until hell froze, or they passed it, right before Christmas. Agreed, they could have grabbed their little peanuts and stood up to the queen, and told her to pack sand, and over ruled her by 2/3, but the kiddies couldn't get to agree to that, as she had threats out to any Dem who voted to adjourn.
It is, but so far its been more hidden. If Hillary wins, it will be right out there and deemed to be OK. She says she wants the country to be united if she wins. She will NEVER unite me to cooperate with her corruption.
The most mind boggling element of this lawlessness was the open, agreed upon destruction of evidence, both by the offenders and the DOJ itself! The plan was not only not to prosecute, but how to insure that any subsequent administration couldn't reopen the investigation. The liberal immunity granted for any trusted party to the criminal acts makes it nearly impossible to hold anyone responsible. One thing I object to is allowing someone granted immunity to continue to plead the 5th amendment when the possibility of punishable self incrimination no longer exists.
Doc, that is one of the reasons I get agitated about all these "incidents", it is so blatent, open and nefarious, and the fact that DOJ set up a pass, and FBI supported it, and it is all in the open, says we do not have any control, checks and balances left.It is time for a reset.
Power corrupts, and the US fedgov has been corrupt for a very long time. Only 5 people have run for president in the past 50 years that could have changed this: Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan, Ross Perot, Ron Paul, and Gary Johnson.
LBJ, the Clintons, and Obama are the worst of the looters.
I like that list except for Johnson. I get the impression he'd spend his time playing with toys on the floor of the oval office. For me...the last hopes where Ron and Rand. When I saw that 1% of the people poled supported Rand I knew that it was all over. We're done.
Johnson was a successful free-market, smal- government governor in a left-leaning state. I can't imagine where you would get such an impression of Johnson. Please elaborate the evidence.
Sure. For $220/hour I will gather evidence. On the bright side, I bet I can get it done within an hour. LOL. Honestly, I've just seen video clips of him flapping his hands and calling an candidate a "p6ssy", talking with his tongue sticking out, and talking about climbing every mountain, etc. I really have given up on the whole campaign. And, he'll never be elected anyway. So, I kind of enjoyed his antics. Trump won't get elected either.
Thanks for the reply, Abaco. I understand that point of view. Gary is not an impressive liar ;^) I agree its a shame that we will likely get the dregs of the field for POTUS.
Don't be so sure on Trump. I am not thrilled with him, but I really, really do not want to let The Beast into the WH, simply because she has decided it is hers. Her history of lying, cheating and treason is so deep, she would be the final end of the country. Trump may be a bumpkin, erratic, but he does not seem to have as much corrupt politico side to him. It is a Kobyashi Maru for sure.
Rigged? Lets see, there were the videos from last election where voters went to vote and they pressed Republicrap, and Dumbocrap replaced them. One guy tried 5 times, got disgusted and walked away..yet no one questioned it. There was also some 100,000 voters in Chicago who were specially privileged to vote several times, even when dead.... no one investigated. As long as the 2 parties agree to allow this crap, say goodbye to any election not predetermined.
Old dino recalls LBJ escalating a big time loss of life in Vietnam on TV until Nixon got me drafted. At the time I was not aware of how LBJ's Great Society program was breaking up black families until after 1973 when he began his dirt nap.
LBJ had a very intersting history, Kennedy used him to get elected, when people actually cared who was VP. My reading of the story says he did not want to be President, except for the assassination. In the conspiracy trial there was some evidence presented to indicate he may have known of it coming.
My comment (that yours followed) was about Gary Johnson in response to Abaco who appeared from the tense to be making a forward looking comment about Gary, not LBJ (who as you noted is long dead. ) LBJ was about as dishonest and unethical as any president until the latest looter-in-residence.
It was that playing with toys on the floor impression bit that made me just made me have to say something. Way back then at the bottom of Alabama my young ears were flooded for hearing segregationists complain about LBJ as they had JFK. I was not paying attention to much else save for gradually turning against a "police action" I started off supporting. Pardon my horning in if that's what I did.
I can't arguew with your list, I am not personally fond of the Libertarian movement as it stands, but no particular politics is free of that issue. I am more and more coming to see that humans refuse to own their own "stuff" and take responsibility for themselves, rather, they look for the free ride in all aspects. It's a shame, people can be so smart when they try...
Hillary set up the clinton foundation and speaking fee system to benefit her and sell government access to the donors. Not to mention that she was sloppy with her email server designed to hide what she was doing plus her lackadaisical attitude toward benghazi security. God knows what she would do as president, and how she would cover it up
I like this bit:
"[Obama] and Bill Clinton are blood feud guys. They really dislike each other and his feeling was if the Clintons got in the White House, the Obamas would be marginalized," said Klein, adding that Obama changed course when he realized he was "stuck with" Clinton as the nominee against Donald Trump.
Stuck withe it, just like we are. How do you like that Barack baby? Wait till the beast doesn't invite you over anymore...
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/10/04...
BUT, she is a political hack who just wants her job at our expense. She should be fired at this point for this attitude, as she will be as Trump becomes president.
The politicians who got us into this mess won't be the ones who can get us out of it. Trump will no doubt clean house
LBJ, the Clintons, and Obama are the worst of the looters.
I agree its a shame that we will likely get the dregs of the field for POTUS.
At the time I was not aware of how LBJ's Great Society program was breaking up black families until after 1973 when he began his dirt nap.
LBJ was about as dishonest and unethical as any president until the latest looter-in-residence.
Way back then at the bottom of Alabama my young ears were flooded for hearing segregationists complain about LBJ as they had JFK.
I was not paying attention to much else save for gradually turning against a "police action" I started off supporting.
Pardon my horning in if that's what I did.